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Joel's got a big enough voice that I'm sure most people didn't miss his Martian Headphones essay which explained the futility of standards.  Jeff Zeldman, who I've always been aware of in my time lurking on the web chimes in on web standards on Craig Shoemaker's new gig, "Pixel 8."  The podcast sound is very rough but it's a good context builder for the notion of standards and what they mean.  If you've ever had to wrangle with a different look in different browsers, you appreciate standards even if they are complicated and never achieve perfection.

Just noticed that Pixel8 has a podcast with Chris Wilson. That will have to wait until tomorrow -

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